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Post by Springer on Jan 1, 2022 0:41:29 GMT -5
Wow, that Demar game winner!
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Post by freewheel on Jan 6, 2022 19:44:23 GMT -5
Suns sign Biyombo for the rest of the season after a couple nice performances. 13 and 6, plus 2 blocks. You telling me we couldn't have used that instead of Bonga this season? He'll id have started Biyombo so Achiuwa could spend the season in the GLeague. I'm less than impressed with management on this one.
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Post by haisan on Jan 7, 2022 10:02:18 GMT -5
Holy crap, has Wiggins turned his game around. I just checked out his advanced stats. This year is the FIRST TIME ever his ORat is better than his DRat: 112-105. Before Golden State, his ORat was never even close. Even last year, his DRat was four points higher. TS% way way higher. Really cool to see him finally fulfilling his potential.
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Post by scully19 on Jan 11, 2022 22:55:11 GMT -5
Reporters should sometimes refuse to report things when it's stupid and you can tell you're being used for propaganda. The newest report that the 76ers are hoping to include Harris in any Ben Simmons trade, basically the most untradeable person added to the second most untradeable player, this shit is clearly not a thing and not going to happen, they combine for around 70 million and would take half a team to unload. Wanting something like that would mean you get a scrap heap of players and no stars. When Morey calls you should just not pick up.
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Post by sandman on Jan 12, 2022 12:41:55 GMT -5
You gotta love to see how poorly Boston and Philly have handled their team the last 5-6 years.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 12, 2022 16:45:39 GMT -5
Reporters should sometimes refuse to report things when it's stupid and you can tell you're being used for propaganda. The newest report that the 76ers are hoping to include Harris in any Ben Simmons trade, basically the most untradeable person added to the second most untradeable player, this shit is clearly not a thing and not going to happen, they combine for around 70 million and would take half a team to unload. Wanting something like that would mean you get a scrap heap of players and no stars. When Morey calls you should just not pick up. It cannot be done however if I was the Pelicans I might try. Their junk roster is a disaster, unless you believe that Williamson is going to come back as the reincarnation of Charles Barkley and not Big Baby Davis.
How could they be any worse with a starting point of Simmons and Harris?
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Post by scully19 on Jan 13, 2022 14:51:50 GMT -5
Cam Reddish, Solomon Hill and 2025 2nd traded for Kevin Knox, and 2022 first round pick.
Seems like the Knicks just robbed the Hawks, and also that the Hawks are giving up slightly on the year? They definitely just got worse currently but maybe they want to use that first round pick to package with others to improve still.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 20, 2022 21:48:24 GMT -5
Raptors should have signed Biyombo. He looks in great shape and is closing games for a really good Suns team. How did we miss out on this guy and sign Bonga when we knew exactly what Biyombo was.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 20, 2022 21:53:08 GMT -5
Cam Reddish, Solomon Hill and 2025 2nd traded for Kevin Knox, and 2022 first round pick. Seems like the Knicks just robbed the Hawks, and also that the Hawks are giving up slightly on the year? They definitely just got worse currently but maybe they want to use that first round pick to package with others to improve still. Last seasons Hawks were a total fluke. All they beat in the playoffs was an overachieving Knicks team and a melting down Sixers team. Their record this year is about right.
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Post by sandman on Jan 20, 2022 22:18:44 GMT -5
Raptors should have signed Biyombo. He looks in great shape and is closing games for a really good Suns team. How did we miss out on this guy and sign Bonga when we knew exactly what Biyombo was. It's like we're trying to have a "developmental" year by giving some young guns run and see what we have... except we don't, because our vets play bulk minutes. Scottie being the exception. We're also winning, so not like we're aiming for a top pick here either. I think they're really, really trying to "reinvent" the game right now and find the Golden State formula and take the league in a new direction. "Positionless" ball or whatever you want to call it. It's my only explanation.
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Post by haisan on Jan 21, 2022 8:24:19 GMT -5
Raptors should have signed Biyombo. He looks in great shape and is closing games for a really good Suns team. How did we miss out on this guy and sign Bonga when we knew exactly what Biyombo was. I mean, there were/are clearly big men available. Maybe not in-his-prime Shaq, but guys who could set picks and push around the other team for 15-20 minutes a game. I don't understand what Ujiri's strategy is. It's almost like he was ready to blow it up, but then we turned out to be too good for that. Again (like what happened when Masai first joined the Raptors).
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Post by scully19 on Jan 21, 2022 9:17:18 GMT -5
I think they know exactly what the year is, they want to develop their players that might be high level in the future. I know this usually revolves around 1 player, Precious, and this is literally Masai's guy. Remember that the first thing Masai said to him when he acquired him was 'You're mine now'. You may not agree with giving him the rope but I think it's pretty obvious that they are going to give it to him, and frankly he's shown improvement over the year so far. Masai even said this is a development year at the first game of the season and to be patient. I just don't think they are interested in benching Precious for a different center even if it does come with a slight improvement for this year.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 21, 2022 9:43:43 GMT -5
I think they know exactly what the year is, they want to develop their players that might be high level in the future. I know this usually revolves around 1 player, Precious, and this is literally Masai's guy. Remember that the first thing Masai said to him when he acquired him was 'You're mine now'. You may not agree with giving him the rope but I think it's pretty obvious that they are going to give it to him, and frankly he's shown improvement over the year so far. Masai even said this is a development year at the first game of the season and to be patient. I just don't think they are interested in benching Precious for a different center even if it does come with a slight improvement for this year. I think Achiuwa would have benefited from being around a vet like Biyombo who has very similar issues with his game.
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Post by scully19 on Jan 21, 2022 11:22:00 GMT -5
Learning from a vet makes sense, I don't think Biyombo exactly qualifies as a teacher just because he's been here a while. Get me Gasol as a teacher. Someone proven if not Gasol, someone more cerebral than Biyombo has ever been and let them teach and I totally understand. That's a more we can all get behind. Clearly the brass has decided to give him minutes to be on the court to improve and it doesn't exactly seem to be the wrong decision at this point as he is doing just that. Mistakes are part of learning and they are letting him make mistakes while showing him and seeking improvement.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 21, 2022 14:05:49 GMT -5
Learning from a vet makes sense, I don't think Biyombo exactly qualifies as a teacher just because he's been here a while. Get me Gasol as a teacher. Someone proven if not Gasol, someone more cerebral than Biyombo has ever been and let them teach and I totally understand. That's a more we can all get behind. Clearly the brass has decided to give him minutes to be on the court to improve and it doesn't exactly seem to be the wrong decision at this point as he is doing just that. Mistakes are part of learning and they are letting him make mistakes while showing him and seeking improvement. You have a higher opinion of Achiuwa's ability to learn than I do. I'd be thrilled if he could replicate what Biyombo was for us a few years go.
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Post by scully19 on Jan 21, 2022 21:40:48 GMT -5
Learning from a vet makes sense, I don't think Biyombo exactly qualifies as a teacher just because he's been here a while. Get me Gasol as a teacher. Someone proven if not Gasol, someone more cerebral than Biyombo has ever been and let them teach and I totally understand. That's a more we can all get behind. Clearly the brass has decided to give him minutes to be on the court to improve and it doesn't exactly seem to be the wrong decision at this point as he is doing just that. Mistakes are part of learning and they are letting him make mistakes while showing him and seeking improvement. You have a higher opinion of Achiuwa's ability to learn than I do. I'd be thrilled if he could replicate what Biyombo was for us a few years go. Not really do or don't, just saying facts that Precious is going to get as good of a shot as any will get to be an NBA player. I just highly doubt they are going to do anything to get in his way at all.
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Post by freewheel on Jan 21, 2022 21:56:01 GMT -5
You have a higher opinion of Achiuwa's ability to learn than I do. I'd be thrilled if he could replicate what Biyombo was for us a few years go. Not really do or don't, just saying facts that Precious is going to get as good of a shot as any will get to be an NBA player. I just highly doubt they are going to do anything to get in his way at all. They can give him a clear path and I think there's still a chance that he will become a decent defense player, however I have no faith that he will ever be anything but a negative offensive player.
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Post by haisan on Jan 21, 2022 22:24:56 GMT -5
Just looking at the standings and … lol @ the East. I don’t recall seeing so many teams with a better road record than home record. Nets, Cavs, Philly, Knicks and Orlando. Plus Phoenix in the West.
Surprisingly, not the Raps. After starting the season so badly at home, the Raps have managed to reverse things.
Anyhow, weird season.
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Post by scully19 on Jan 27, 2022 11:06:39 GMT -5
Seems like we got some tampering going on in the NBA, shocking I know, and that Philly already knows they will get Harden in the off season. They had a shift from trading Simmons for an impactful player to having to include Harris for expiring contracts as well. That would make more sense to get a decent role player that can fit with Embiid and Harden rather than draft equity they are asking for. Teams with expirings might be more willing to do a trade like that at least although again asking price is too much.
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Post by scully19 on Jan 28, 2022 8:07:58 GMT -5
How the fuck did Kyrie Irving get a player vote of 8th and a media vote for 9th. Fuck both groups. FVV also should have been higher but at least media for him closer to right.
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Post by haisan on Feb 4, 2022 4:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by freewheel on Feb 4, 2022 10:41:56 GMT -5
It depends whether you think the Raps could have repeated and what that is worth. I think they could have. However that is all past. The team was not built for a long run. Gasol is out of the league and Ibaka is just barely hanging on.
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Post by scully19 on Feb 4, 2022 13:26:06 GMT -5
It depends whether you think the Raps could have repeated and what that is worth. I think they could have. However that is all past. The team was not built for a long run. Gasol is out of the league and Ibaka is just barely hanging on. I'm absolutely on board that the team next year would have repeated. Gasol took a step back that year but Ibaka was as good if not better and basically everyone got better and OG was there to play. The only thing stepping in the way is the obvious regression due to inactivity that Siakam still would have had that could have hurt their secondary offensive attack.
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Post by haisan on Feb 4, 2022 17:58:56 GMT -5
It depends whether you think the Raps could have repeated and what that is worth. I think they could have. However that is all past. The team was not built for a long run. Gasol is out of the league and Ibaka is just barely hanging on. That 2020 team was criminally underrated. On pace for 60 wins, even without Kawhi. But long-term, Kawai’s health issues look like they could have turned into an anchor that screwed us up. Instead, I’m pretty happy with how things are working out.
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Post by scully19 on Feb 6, 2022 9:20:00 GMT -5
Nets play the Nuggets today at 330, lose and the Raptors will for the time being at least move into 6th and out of the play in.
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Post by haisan on Feb 6, 2022 20:32:55 GMT -5
Nets play the Nuggets today at 330, lose and the Raptors will for the time being at least move into 6th and out of the play in. It is a beautiful thing~
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Post by sandman on Feb 6, 2022 21:25:08 GMT -5
You honestly gotta love these "powerhouse" teams losing. All these fake stars trying to assemble on one team thinking they're the Avengers only to lose and fail. Love it.
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Post by haisan on Feb 6, 2022 21:34:54 GMT -5
You honestly gotta love these "powerhouse" teams losing. All these fake stars trying to assemble on one team thinking they're the Avengers only to lose and fail. Love it. And I love how indignant guys like Durant get when you try to make them accountable. Yes, Durant, you're one of the all-time greats. But you joined a 73-win team, one year after it won a championship. You don't get to claim the same championship glory that guys like Steph, LeBron or Jordan get. Happily. Harden doesn't even have that.
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Post by haisan on Feb 10, 2022 20:16:38 GMT -5
Hahahaha~
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Post by haisan on Feb 21, 2022 18:31:23 GMT -5
And now… the lamest week of the season, as the trade deadline has passed and we have to wait for games to resume. Boring~
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