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Post by Springer on Dec 21, 2020 18:26:01 GMT -5
4 years, $72 million
SUPER happy that we got this done! He'll be well worth the money.
(and 5 minutes later Derrick White signs for $73 million!)
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Dec 21, 2020 19:28:22 GMT -5
Post by sutureself on Dec 21, 2020 19:28:22 GMT -5
Awesome news and a really good contract from a team perspective I think. Jerami Grant had somewhat similar stats/skillset and just signed for 3 years/60 million, and he's also a few years older, has bounced around to a couple teams, and doesn't have as much potential upside as OG. If he has a good year and takes the next step, I think a team desperate to make a splash would've signed him to an offer sheet above 4 years/72 million, and made it more expensive to keep him. And if he doesn't develop significantly beyond what he is now, that's still a good contract for a versatile 3 and D guy.
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Dec 21, 2020 22:56:48 GMT -5
Post by sandman on Dec 21, 2020 22:56:48 GMT -5
Everyone suddenly trying to lock up their guys before next season.
Solid contract. After OG's performance at C in that 1 or 2 games in the playoffs, I was sold. Man is a winner.
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Dec 22, 2020 6:31:35 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Dec 22, 2020 6:31:35 GMT -5
Lose a small amount of free agent money next year which doesn't seem to matter so that much at this point but definitely worth it. Doesn't seem like any Raptors fan is upset by this contract and could end up being a steal. Nice to know you have a core locked up now for 4 years minimum.
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Dec 22, 2020 14:02:33 GMT -5
Post by scully19 on Dec 22, 2020 14:02:33 GMT -5
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Dec 22, 2020 19:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Dec 22, 2020 19:15:47 GMT -5
Just love OG.
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Dec 23, 2020 9:30:49 GMT -5
Post by coach on Dec 23, 2020 9:30:49 GMT -5
OG hasn't shown the growth I had expected but to be fair he had injuries and personal problems. But he was still paid so that is a team problem. Same can be said for Powell. Norm has turned into a piece added to a trade for a better player, unfortunately. He has had his share of injuries as well. My hope is that both of these players get to the their next level. That is the best way for this team to improve. I really would have liked to seen Ibaka stay for one more year at least. Mainly because Lowry is going to be another year older and they need him to be a contender. Front court is going to be an issue which takes us back to the old days when DeMar and Lowry were the only offence the team had. If MU is in a "pause" mode then trading Lowry makes sense looking to make a run with his core of younger players in a year or two. Btw I agree with Harden, the Raptors are not an option.
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Dec 31, 2020 12:56:28 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Dec 31, 2020 12:56:28 GMT -5
I hope he picked up steam for DPOY.
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Dec 31, 2020 15:08:57 GMT -5
Post by sutureself on Dec 31, 2020 15:08:57 GMT -5
I feel like OG is sort of like Bruce Bowen (minus the dirty play), he could end up being an every year All-Defensive Team selection but never win DPOY because he doesn't put up the glory stats. This is one of those half glass full/half empty things. Half-full: if we have a lockdown 3 and D wing that's something reliable we can count on to turn the team around once the offense becomes more consistent. Half-empty: OG might be shutting dudes down at an unsustainable level and we're still getting killed out there and have nothing to show for it.
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Jan 1, 2021 8:05:20 GMT -5
Post by coach on Jan 1, 2021 8:05:20 GMT -5
I feel like OG is sort of like Bruce Bowen (minus the dirty play), he could end up being an every year All-Defensive Team selection but never win DPOY because he doesn't put up the glory stats. This is one of those half glass full/half empty things. Half-full: if we have a lockdown 3 and D wing that's something reliable we can count on to turn the team around once the offense becomes more consistent. Half-empty: OG might be shutting dudes down at an unsustainable level and we're still getting killed out there and have nothing to show for it. Yes he is not a terrible player but each year older he gets most would expect additions to his game. He is great at D, not a bad 3 pt shooter and his rebounding has stepped up. Playmaking, getting to the basket, and moving without the ball are areas I would like to see him step up in this year. He has all of the tools except what is between his ears. I am very impressed with his strength. Randall tried to push him around and he was quickly schooled on that idea.
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Jan 1, 2021 14:17:15 GMT -5
Post by sutureself on Jan 1, 2021 14:17:15 GMT -5
I don't think there's anything wrong with OG between his ears in terms of his basketball IQ, he tends to make smart high-percentage plays, more just will he develop the killer instinct and be willing to create shots and do things outside his current comfort zone, or is he more realistically a complimentary Robert Covington/Otto Porter Jr. style player.
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Post by Pseudonym on Nov 2, 2021 10:24:51 GMT -5
After a poor start, OG has really picked things up and is looking more comfortable with the steep increased creation responsibilities.
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Nov 10, 2021 9:52:16 GMT -5
Post by scully19 on Nov 10, 2021 9:52:16 GMT -5
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Dec 8, 2021 15:36:24 GMT -5
Post by layman on Dec 8, 2021 15:36:24 GMT -5
So does anyone know anything about what's going on with OG? The team is understandably tight-lipped but it's becoming a cause for concern.
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Dec 8, 2021 15:43:48 GMT -5
Post by freewheel on Dec 8, 2021 15:43:48 GMT -5
No idea but fortunately we have more forwards than we need. This team is thin and C, PG and SG but we have tons of quality forwards. It hasn't hurt us nearly as much as losing our centre or losing our PG. That would be a nightmare. Even losing Trent for those few games was pretty bad.
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Post by scully19 on Dec 8, 2021 16:55:51 GMT -5
So does anyone know anything about what's going on with OG? The team is understandably tight-lipped but it's becoming a cause for concern. Eric Koreen basically said the team has taken away timelines in that they don't know anymore. Basically that Hip Pointers can be really tricky and OG has seemingly plateaued in his recovery right now so they are not sure how long it'll take anymore. That means it could be a month or he could all of a sudden be better, practice in a couple days then play right after (like the did with Khem who was listed as out indefinitely)....Those are all roughly Eric Koreen's words from memory.
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Jun 12, 2022 12:57:48 GMT -5
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Post by sandman on Jun 12, 2022 12:57:48 GMT -5
Rumours continue swirling around OG being unhappy in his role here.
Part of me thinks Barnes has taken much of what OG wants.
Would be a shame to lose OG however he just doesn't seem capable of taking that next step. He seems on the verge of being really, really good but either gets injured or struggles to get into a groove.
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Jun 13, 2022 0:16:23 GMT -5
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Post by haisan on Jun 13, 2022 0:16:23 GMT -5
Rumours continue swirling around OG being unhappy in his role here. Part of me thinks Barnes has taken much of what OG wants. Would be a shame to lose OG however he just doesn't seem capable of taking that next step. He seems on the verge of being really, really good but either gets injured or struggles to get into a groove. From what I can tell, it's all just an online echo chamber ... much of which seems to have started with Jake Fischer's evidence-free speculating, then got repeated by all those other 3rd tier sports-gossip outlets. I also really like all the stories saying: "Anunoby would require a steep price, but XXXXXX's GM said [team's 7th man] and [team's 8th man] are untouchable." Like, no bitch, Masai isn't trading OG for your bench scrubs. (Granted, I'm imagining him getting traded for an all-star center or something ridiculous, so I'm not much better ... but I don't call myself a "journalist" either).
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Jun 18, 2022 15:05:54 GMT -5
Post by coach on Jun 18, 2022 15:05:54 GMT -5
Same thing every year for OG. Continue to improve. He's young so there's that. But I will suggest this. If OG does not take that next step in his game (better handle, making plays) this year I would look at moving him next year, later in the year if possible. I would like to see him stay healthy just to see if his progress improves accordingly. As long as his contract reflects how he is playing and not his upside potential he doesn't hurt the Raptors.
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Jun 19, 2022 9:01:31 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Jun 19, 2022 9:01:31 GMT -5
I think him not taking a step can actually work out just fine. We are going to run into a financial problem very soon, Siakam is maxed, FVV is getting his next contract and there's a risk he's going up from where he was. All signs point to Scottie being close to max. Precious is in line for a raise if he plays a whole year like the end of last year, nevermind if he improves too. GTJ needs to get resigned too and if we keep him that's another 20 range contract. If OG just stayed a ultimate 3 and D big wing his price might stay low enough to keep him.
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Jun 19, 2022 10:54:03 GMT -5
Post by freewheel on Jun 19, 2022 10:54:03 GMT -5
Maybe not this summer but someone is getting traded. Barnes will not be held back for long. The front court is overloaded and it makes too much sense financially to strengthen other areas of the roster.
They'll get a little relief from Youngs big contract coming off the books but that is temporary. Boucher may already be a casualty. Your team doesn't get better by letting good players slip away for nothing. That's how the Raptors fell to the bottom of the league after their championship.
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Jun 20, 2022 8:23:20 GMT -5
Post by haisan on Jun 20, 2022 8:23:20 GMT -5
Maybe not this summer but someone is getting traded. Barnes will not be held back for long. The front court is overloaded and it makes too much sense financially to strengthen other areas of the roster. I agree. The long bois lineup was fun, but ultimately, it could only go so far (at least these long bois). There's a lot I like about OG, but he's probably the most in-demand player we have. And given his injury history, I think it makes sense that Ujiri would see what he might be able to get for him.
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Jun 20, 2022 8:27:18 GMT -5
Post by haisan on Jun 20, 2022 8:27:18 GMT -5
I saw some rando website imagined us in a three-way trade with Atlanta and Portland, giving up OG and Trent Jr. for Clint Capela, Josh Hart and Portland's No. 7 pick ... Which I must admit, made me think. I guess a lot of that depends on who you think will be available at 7 (Shaedon Sharpe?).
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Jul 28, 2022 17:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by Money_Ball on Jul 28, 2022 17:31:56 GMT -5
I love OG, but if Mitchell can be had for him and Trent jr I think I'd pull the trigger.
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Post by haisan on Jul 28, 2022 20:35:43 GMT -5
I love OG, but if Mitchell can be had for him and Trent jr I think I'd pull the trigger. Yeah, I'm not really sold on the all 6'8" team idea. So if we want to be a bit more normal, then we simply have too many guys doing much the same thing. OG is a great defender and brings a lot to the team ... but he's also injured a lot. Mitchell might be really interesting on our team. Otoh, Mitchell is a lot more interesting on a team of excellent defenders.
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Jul 29, 2022 17:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by Money_Ball on Jul 29, 2022 17:53:42 GMT -5
I love OG, but if Mitchell can be had for him and Trent jr I think I'd pull the trigger. Yeah, I'm not really sold on the all 6'8" team idea. So if we want to be a bit more normal, then we simply have too many guys doing much the same thing. OG is a great defender and brings a lot to the team ... but he's also injured a lot. Mitchell might be really interesting on our team. Otoh, Mitchell is a lot more interesting on a team of excellent defenders. I look at it just from an asset standpoint. Star players are the biggest difference makers and they're also the most difficult to aquire. OG looks great now but in two years I'm afraid his new contract will make him way less appealing.
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Nov 9, 2022 19:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Nov 9, 2022 19:01:36 GMT -5
OG as per usual is hilarious.
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Nov 30, 2022 10:21:52 GMT -5
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Post by scully19 on Nov 30, 2022 10:21:52 GMT -5
Our boy Prince OG is getting a lot of respect right now in DPOY and with a lot of good reason. Eric Koreen (The Athletic Raptors Reporter) was just on with the Lowe post and Zach said that OG might actually be the current leader for the DPOY so far. When Zach Lowe makes a comment like that this is going to influence people to pay attention to OG more than before. I think he is about to get some serious consideration now.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:15:56 GMT -5
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Dec 30, 2023 13:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by haisan on Dec 30, 2023 13:06:04 GMT -5
Bye bye OG! We had some good times. Best of luck with the Knicks.
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