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Post by sandman on Sept 13, 2020 11:12:12 GMT -5
Lost W. Conf. Semis
Lost W. Conf. Semis
Lost W. Conf. Finals
Lost W. Conf. Semis
Lost W. Conf. 1st Rnd.
Lost W. Conf. Finals
Lost W. Conf. 1st Rnd.
Lost W. Conf. 1st Rnd
Yikes.
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Post by freewheel on Sept 13, 2020 15:03:53 GMT -5
Losing ain't that bad but not putting up a fight is less forgivable. We should know. Some of our past playoff appearances have been rollovers.
The Rockets gave up this year. Dantoni has resigned as coach. Probably a pretty clever thing for him to do. I imagine that team might get toxic and Dantoni is getting out ahead of it.
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Post by Pseudonym on Sept 13, 2020 18:28:41 GMT -5
The Harden-era Rockets can be applauded for swinging hard. As the Warriors reached their apex, Morey didn't shy away and try to wait them out, he just tried harder and kept swinging. And to the their credit, did they very close to getting over the hump. But they've overlooked the human element of the game, ultimately making them predictable and unable to adapt. The bizarre schemes Utah and San Antonio trotted out at times is a testament to that.
But they've had just some awful collapses too. Live by the 3, die by the 3. They're in a harder place than Philly. They've got a supermax player that is ignored in the halfcourt in the postseason and no draft picks, a cheapskate owner and little roster depth. I wouldn't be surprised if Harden demands a trade.
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Post by scully19 on Oct 15, 2020 17:55:33 GMT -5
Existing Rockets thread, they are in free fall. Daryl Morey has now stepped down from GM. I assume he wants to go somewhere that has a more open pocket book.
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Post by freewheel on Oct 15, 2020 18:42:11 GMT -5
I don't really know what to make of the Rockets situation. Is it the owner causing unrest or is it that no one wants to deal with Harden and Westbrook issues? Its not a bad team at all, just atypical.
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Post by scully19 on Oct 15, 2020 22:32:20 GMT -5
It seems like a combination of the 2. I imagine the new owner is not into winning enough for Daryl who only wants that opportunity and you need to get into the tax to win. If they had 1 or 2 more guys they could have handled the injuries better but they don't because the owner is too cheap.
I also think harden makes that than generally unattractive a destination for 90 percent of players. Only those self aware that they should only be spot up shooters would even consider going there.
Finally, Daryl blew it all to get there Rockets there and they are screwed now and he knows it. The downswing has begun with no more money coming, best to bail now that be stuck holding this bill. Rockets will drop for a couple years then be garbage for many.
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Post by freewheel on Oct 16, 2020 16:01:04 GMT -5
I get that, but GM jobs are not as easy to come by as coaching jobs. You give one up you might be out for several years or possibly never get another one.
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Post by scully19 on Oct 16, 2020 23:05:17 GMT -5
I get that, but GM jobs are not as easy to come by as coaching jobs. You give one up you might be out for several years or possibly never get another one. in most cases I agree with you, but there's some who could walk into their next job without effort. Masai could get any job he wanted if he left. Sam Presti could as well though not set the same level. Daryl is probably in the next group. The Knicks are probably really pissed right now they hired Rose because they would take Daryl right away. I'm assuming Daryl will just wait for a team who will go into luxury cap and give him a real championship funding to see what he can do there. |
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Post by sandman on Dec 19, 2020 12:46:55 GMT -5
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Post by coach on Dec 20, 2020 8:21:44 GMT -5
It's interesting to watch the evolution of pro sports over the years. I'm not old enough to have witnessed the opening up of sports to people of colour but I do recall when people of colour played either for the first time or rarely in various sports. And it was noteworthy. I remember that pro team players were owned at one time. Their contracts were based on what the owner was willing to pay and if the player didn't like it they sat. Didn't matter if they were the top star.
Player's associations blossomed. Collective bargaining rights were established. Free agency was negotiated. On the surface it all seemed more than fair. After all no one paid money to watch an owner. Today we have players organizing trades, drafts, contracts, front office hires and in some cases owning the team. The latest phenomenon was the Black Lives Matter script on the floors and jerseys of players. Advertising on uniforms and political messages were foreign to pro sports because owners wouldn't allow it. They were selling entertainment not a social awareness.
So while I agree that pro players should be paid accordingly to their performance I don't agree with early free agency. Early free agency has allowed the James to South Beach with Wade and Bosh. James and Davis in LA. Leonard and George in LA. Durant and the Warriors. There are many examples of players upsetting the balance of the league due to the leverage of free agency. Players nearing their free agency for example could threaten to play poorly until the contract is up and then leave the team with no compensation. We saw that years ago with Carter. As Toronto has found out, if you aren't a player destination the super stars never agree to meet in Toronto to form a super team. Even just after winning a championship. The pendulum has swung far in favour of the players compared to the days of my youth. A serious question to be asked is the current product sustainable? Are people willing to pay millionaire salaries to average or less than average players? If you are a paying customer dropping hundreds or thousands of dollars for tickets how thrilled would you be to hear that your star player or players fly out to party destinations on their days off? And that's why teams keep that stuff quiet.
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