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Post by haisan on Oct 31, 2019 5:20:34 GMT -5
And Curry breaks his hand. Looks like Golden State is on track to duplicate the '97 Spurs.
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Post by scully19 on Oct 31, 2019 5:51:01 GMT -5
Rockets beat Wizards 159 to 158 in regulation. Most combined points in a game in a century.
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Post by haisan on Oct 31, 2019 8:40:47 GMT -5
162-158, Golden State over Denver - Nov. 2, 1990.
So that Rockets-Wizards game was the third-highest NBA game ever (non-overtime).
I still think it's bizarre that this game happened on the same day the Washington Nationals beat the Astros for the World Series.
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Post by freewheel on Nov 1, 2019 14:27:55 GMT -5
So are the Warriors going to be the worst team in the league this year now that Curry is out? They are certainly in the running. I'm interested in what goes on with Green if they lose 10 or 15 in a row. He never seemed all that balanced even when things were good. Does he lose his shit?
Imagine moving into a brand new building in a new city at the exact moment when your team nosedives into the dumper.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 1, 2019 16:15:26 GMT -5
They have been the league's worst defense to now and without Curry they are likely to be the league's worst offense too. They also are so up against the hard cap they LITERALLY can't get any players for help until Jan, at which point only on 10 day deals. They can't sign any players to minimums until March because they only have 300k left. Basically the team they have is all the help they will possibly get and the team they have is terrible and young.
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Post by freewheel on Nov 3, 2019 20:13:32 GMT -5
So the Knicks get destroyed at home by the Sacramento Kings. I guess that establishes who the worst team in the league will be this year.
By the way, the other game that I was flipping back and forth to was the Rockets losing by 30 to the Heat.
This was not a great night to be entertained by basketball.
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Post by haisan on Nov 3, 2019 21:04:02 GMT -5
Holy poop~ In today's Houston loss, Westbrook was minus-46! That's an impressive plus/minus.
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Post by fenris77 on Nov 3, 2019 21:49:35 GMT -5
Duncan Robinson, Rocket killer. Who knew?  |
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Post by haisan on Nov 6, 2019 0:04:34 GMT -5
This made me laugh:
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Post by haisan on Nov 7, 2019 20:41:10 GMT -5
This Reddit post is a work of art — a statistical analysis comparing Harden’s performance with the quality of a city’s strip clubs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/dt0ucg/i_analyzed_james_hardens_performance_in_every_nba/
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Post by sandman on Nov 8, 2019 0:06:26 GMT -5
This Reddit post is a work of art — a statistical analysis comparing Harden’s performance with the quality of a city’s strip clubs. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/dt0ucg/i_analyzed_james_hardens_performance_in_every_nba/ I was reading this while on the can today! I cannot for the life of me understand how Toronto is rated so low on the strip club scale. Our ladies actually get naked, how does that not put us in the top 10 at the very least?! |
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Post by haisan on Nov 10, 2019 9:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by coach on Nov 10, 2019 19:24:06 GMT -5
Ah yes the incredible edibles.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 11, 2019 7:28:22 GMT -5
Suspended 10 games by the team as well. Not exactly a great start to the year from a guy who thinks he should be a main part of the team.
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Post by haisan on Nov 15, 2019 0:15:00 GMT -5
Right now, Giannis Antetokounmpo has a 33.7 PER. That's by far the highest PER ever recorded.
How much higher? The No. 2 PER ever is Wilt's 1962-3 season, with a 31.8. That's 1.9 points higher.
After Wilt's 31.8, most of the next-best PERs are pretty clustered. Going 1.9 points below Wilt's PER would be 29.9, or just the 25th-best PER ever (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 1971-2 season) (his best). So, yeah... Giannis is pretty freakin' good.
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Post by sutureself on Nov 15, 2019 1:11:02 GMT -5
Right now, Giannis Antetokounmpo has a 33.7 PER. That's by far the highest PER ever recorded. How much higher? The No. 2 PER ever is Wilt's 1962-3 season, with a 31.8. That's 1.9 points higher. After Wilt's 31.8, most of the next-best PERs are pretty clustered. Going 1.9 points below Wilt's PER would be 29.9, or just the 25th-best PER ever (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 1971-2 season) (his best). So, yeah... Giannis is pretty freakin' good. That's interesting. I'm curious though how does PER work for someone like Wilt in the 60s before they tracked blocks, steals and offensive rebounds, when those are all part of the PER calculation? He used to put up stupid video game numbers back then like averaging 50 points and 25 rebounds a game. |
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Post by haisan on Nov 19, 2019 9:26:28 GMT -5
Milwaukee is looking really scary. Second-best point differential in the NBA but by FAR the toughest schedule anyone has faced.
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Post by haisan on Nov 19, 2019 9:35:10 GMT -5
That's interesting. I'm curious though how does PER work for someone like Wilt in the 60s before they tracked blocks, steals and offensive rebounds, when those are all part of the PER calculation? He used to put up stupid video game numbers back then like averaging 50 points and 25 rebounds a game. Yeah, advanced stats get more and more sketchy the further back in time you go. Although it's also interesting how inefficient Wilt was back then, relatively speaking. His Efficiency and TS% were pretty low during his massive PER seasons. His PER was much lower in 66/67 and 71/72, when he was much more efficient and – surprise! – he actually won championships. |
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Post by scully19 on Nov 19, 2019 9:43:22 GMT -5
Milwaukee is looking really scary. Second-best point differential in the NBA but by FAR the toughest schedule anyone has faced. I imagine you got the toughest schedule from some calculation, but looking at their previous games it's not that impressive. They lost to the Heat, Celtic, Jazz. They beat the Rockets (first game of year, Rockets came out of gate very bad), Clippers (w/o Kawhi and PG), and Raptors. All the other those they basically won all the games they should against generally bad competition of the Cavs, Magic, Wolves, Thunder, Bullsx2, and Pacers (overrated due to their EXTREMELY weak schedule). They will still be good, but they are still worse than last year IMO. |
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Post by haisan on Nov 19, 2019 9:57:12 GMT -5
Yes, just going off the numbers for the Bucks. And that they've only had four home games so far.
Strength of schedule is a funny number ... the best team in the NBA will always, by definition, have the easiest SOS by the end of the year. But for whatever reason, right now the Bucks' SOS is ridiculously out of whack with the rest of the NBA. Raptors are a bit tougher than average.
Celtics on the other hand, have had an easy schedule. I could see them pulling another 2017/18 and looking a lot less impressive as the season goes on.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 19, 2019 10:23:09 GMT -5
The Celtics are an interesting case for sure. It seems like everyone is now bumping them up to fringe title contenders who are borderline joining the Bucks and 76ers as tops in the East, and while they look good so far it does seem a little early considering their schedule so far. It still seems like Raptors/Celtics/Heat are 3-5 fighting to be third to not have to face the other in the first round.
Also, how are the Celtics the easiest SOS. Look at the Pacers. They have played Cavs, Pistons, Nets, Cavs, Bulls, Hornets, Wizards, Pistons, Magic, Thunder, Rockets, Bucks, Nets. It wasn't until the last 3 games they played anyone of value. They are going to start dropping off once they play better teams.
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Post by Pseudonym on Nov 19, 2019 19:01:27 GMT -5
The absolute mad men.
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Post by haisan on Nov 19, 2019 20:33:52 GMT -5
50 years from now, desperate teams will be exhuming the bones of Carmelo Anthony, hoping he can inject a little life in their offense. And he'll still be a chucker. |
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Post by sutureself on Nov 19, 2019 21:58:59 GMT -5
Through 22 minutes of playing time, Carmelo's 3 for 12 with 7 points, 4 rebounds, zero assists and 5 turnovers. What are the Blazers even doing. I could understand if they were deliberately tanking but this seems like the most misguided 'win now' move of all time. If your team's stars have some irrational man-crush on Carmelo then sure, sign him I guess, let him goof around in practice, only have him come into the game as the human victory cigar at the end of a blowout. But don't just immediately start him off the street.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 19, 2019 22:40:00 GMT -5
Well i guess it is largely because the rest of the options there are terrible but they are in trouble. -20 in 23 min is not a good start, neither is shooting 28%. I hope for his sake this is first game jitters but he will not be able to improve on the defensive end so he is going to be very limited.
I've been thinking lately I'm afraid this is going to happen to DeRozan in a couple years. He can't play defense and his offense is isolation without him being much faster, and he scores inefficient in the mid-range. If he loses even a little bit he could be done real quick.
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Post by Pseudonym on Nov 20, 2019 15:44:30 GMT -5
bleacherreport.com/articles/2863327-after-170m-max-extension-sixers-still-waiting-for-ben-simmons-to-hit-3sIt can't really be understated how concerning this is for the Sixers. If Simmons doesn't shoot then they are screwed across the board. They are an easy out in the 2nd round; Reddick and Jimmy Buckets are gone, and the two of them kept their halfcourt offense from being an omnishambles. I've totally accepted that our Fun Guy is gone, but MAN getting through the east again if he stayed would be such a cakewalk. The Bucks without Brodgon? Sixers without Reddick and Butler? The Celtics? I mean come on.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 20, 2019 16:15:24 GMT -5
Ya I had zero doubt watching those stupid videos that he didn't have a shot still. The release is bad and he was playing against midgets. Plus he's showing clips so he just needs to try like 10 times just to hit finally and play it off like job done. Compare that to Siakam, drafted in the same year and potentially now ascended Simmons entirely, but had an equally bad shot and is now doing pull ups in defenders faces. Ben Simmons came into the league talking about how he wanted to be one of the best ever to play the game, but it generally just looks like he doesn't try to be any better than he is.
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Post by scully19 on Nov 20, 2019 17:18:03 GMT -5
Kyrie Irving is a elite basketball player, but is he even a good player towards team winning? It's not looking good on him right now. He destroyed the world beating future celtics (who are looking to have recovered pretty well now without him) and is now heading up the flatlining Nets. His advanced stats seem to look like he is a positive player with high usage so the kind of thing you want on a team, it just seems like the players around him drop off because they are so uninvolved. Dinwiddie's last 4 years including this year so far in Off Rating are 116, 114, 114, 109. Caris Lavert is 107, 103, 105, 93. Just look at last years holdovers: Joe Harris 119 vs 112, Jarrett Allen 123 vs 121 (not bad). It just generally seems like everyone produces lower numbers when playing with Kyrie because he is good at playing alone but not good playing within a team and setting guys up to succeed.
I also don't think it is his much maligned locker room stuff, apparently everyone on the Nets has said he is a great leader off the court (though he does have weird mood swings according to Jackie Mac), I think the real problem is actually his on court stuff.
It's obviously not breaking news at this point, but I wouldn't want this guy on my team ever.
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Post by Pseudonym on Nov 20, 2019 20:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by freewheel on Nov 20, 2019 20:24:54 GMT -5
I like Simmons game. The fact that his shooting is such an issue is more of a roster problem than his own. He's still an efficient scorer who stacks the stat sheet.
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