The Raps all-time top 5 Greats

Feels like multiple criteria needed. Best player, franchise impact, longevity. Lowry is universally 1 but also universally not the best player ever, so how it gets there needs some figuring.

Looking at the top 6 guys (big drop behind Siakam IMO) I'm thinking to rank them in each then average out.

Best player:
1. Kawhi
2. Carter
3. Bosh
4. Lowry
5. Siakam
6. DeRozan

Franchise impact:
1. Lowry
2. DeRozan
3. Kawhi
4. Carter
5. Siakam
6. Bosh

Longevity:
1. DeRozan
1. Lowry
3. Siakam
4. Carter
4. Bosh
6. Kawhi

Totals:
Lowry: 6
DeRozan: 9
Siakam: 13
Carter: 10
Bosh: 13
Kawhi: 10

So my ranking:
1. Lowry
2. DeRozan
3. Kawhi
3. Carter
5. Bosh
5. Siakam

a lot of close votes there so it is a working list that I could be convinced to move some players around a bit, but the result seems pretty decent so hard to argue with the process.

Ya those were all close honestly, I could see Bosh going to the bottom of that list too.

Were those career numbers? Siakam obviously started way lower in skill but to me he was higher by the end, especially the defensive end. Comparable offense but not even close defense.

Sorry, but I refuse to vote for Carter. Just a colossal waste. My personal voting:

1) Lowry
2) Bosh
3) DeRozan
4) Kawhi
5) Damon Stoudamire

I think Bosh doesn't get enough love. He really worked hard. Once he developed a 3-point shot, he was ahead of his time. And not a bad defender (and still leads the Raptors in blocks and rebounds).

Stoudamire led a win versus the 72-win Jordan Bulls. That's golden.

I agree about Bosh not getting enough love, he got way too much blame for not having a winning team when everything around him was crap. Defending him at the time was tiring but he put up incredible numbers.... And then I have to question putting Damon 5th ahead of Siakam and right behind fellow one year player Kawhi who I think had way more impact than Damon.

I never watched back then at all, I thought I heard he played here a year then forced his way out because he didn't want to be/play in Toronto. I guess I either misheard or misremembered. I take back my question now.

Here's my extremely biased/subjective top 5:

1. Lowry
2. Bosh (based on his overall resume, I think Bosh would be number 1 best player in franchise history and I could argue he's right at the edge of top-10 PF all time, but he was smart enough to leave Raptors when they were in full on dysfunctional mode)
3. Kawhi (I know, one and done, but flags fly forever)
4. Siakam
5. Carter (still think the guy was a loser but can't argue with the talent)

I know DeRozan deserves to be on there for overall longevity but I spent so long picking apart his game that it's hard to remember the good times. Spent so many years wishing our franchise guy could shoot or defend, instead of constantly having to scheme lineups to cover up the fact that he couldn't shoot 3s or cover quicker guards laterally

Bottom 5 Raptors (not putting much thought into this, just guys off the top of my head I soured on; most of these were players I at one point had decent hopes for, which adds to the disappointment):

1. Bargnani
2. Turkoglu
3. Carter (it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times)
4. Lamond Murray
5. Araujo (hard to blame him though, it was just pretty clear he was not that good even though he tried hard and seemed to have an okay attitude)